Filler Talents, Part Two

Alright, we’re moving on to the Arms trash, now.  This one will be a bit shorter, but fear not – you will still get all the juicy goodness as before.  Again, this is for DPS, not for tanking.

The mandatory, “Non-trash”:

Heroic Strike, 3/3

Come on now.  You’re going to be using Heroic Strike, no matter what kind of Warrior you are.  Pick this up.

ARMS

You’re picking up Rend (2/2), Charge (2/2), and then go back for Deflection (3/5).  That’s pretty much it for the trash talents, everything else in the tree is more or less dictated for you.  Simple, huh?

You don’t really need Tactical Mastery as Arms.  You’re not really switching stances at all (better to equip a shield and one-hand to Shield Bash for an emergency interrupt than to Switch to Fury and Pummel), and if you are pinch-tanking, you’re pretty much in a rough Unrelenting Assault build (read: Revenge spam).

FURY

Deflection (2/5) to get you to Tier Two, Pick up Tactical Mastery (3/5), and then go back and put two more into Deflection (now 4/5).

The reason we are picking up Tactical Mastery here is because of stance dancing for Shattering Throw.  You naturally keep 10 rage when switching stances.  With all three points invested in Tactical Mastery, you now keep 10+15=25 rage when switching stances.  Shattering Throw costs 25 rage to cast, and requires Battle Stance to use.  With 3/3 TM, you will never switch from Berserker to Battle, have to wait for a white hit, cast Shattering Throw, and then be able to switch back to Zerker.  This is MINIMIZING the personal cost of proving Shattering Throw for the raid’s benefit.

Anger Management

This is… not really considered a trash talent.  You don’t “need” this talent to get further down in the tree, as it’s on the same tier as Incite and Deep Wounds, and Imp Overpower for Arms.  So it’s not really considered a trash talent in quite the same way.

However, it is worth mentioning, as it’s a one point talent that is often considered for use in both Arms and Fury builds.

Anger Management is a good talent.  If you can afford to pick up this talent, do so.

One rage per per three seconds is very good.  For Fury, picking this up is like picking up THREE POINTS in Unbridled Wrath.  For Arms, picking up this talent is like picking up FIVE POINTS in Unbridled Wrath.

It really depends, though the sacrifice you make to pick this up.  For Arms, I’m strapped for Talents as is, (employing an Incite build).  I’m currently using 2/3 Incite without picking up this talent, though the math is showing that each point in Incite is worth about the same point in Anger Management.  For Fury, as you generally have a couple of points to play with, and Improved Execute is so poor nowadays, it’s a bit easier to pick up.

However, if you’re Arms, and using an Imp Execute build… it’s probably not worth the sacrifice needed to put the point in Anger Management.

No Iron Will?

Nope.  This is the “bad trash”.  This is the stuff you want to avoid.  Unless you have a specific need for it, don’t pick it up.  You’ll get more suvivability and DPS out of Deflection than you will in Iron Will.

“Specific Need” – What situations might I want Iron Will?

If you’re tanking as a DPS Warrior in the gauntlet for the corner pack of mobs in Thorim on 25s, then you can pick up Iron Will.  But then, Deflection would probably be better, anyways.

I’ll also reserve judgment

But it’s just trash talents anyways!  Can taking Iron Will really hurt?

Yes.  You’re going to pull aggro at one point or another in your career.  You’re going to pick a mob up off a healer, or you’re going to pull aggro on a mob in the main room of Thorim during phase two, or you’re going to pick up the boss if the tank goes down.  In ALL of these situations, Deflection will benefit you more than Iron Will.

I’ve found ONE place in Wrath so far that having Iron Will helps – King Ymiron, the last boss in Utgarde Pinnacle.  Do you really want to spec for that one Heroic boss?  Really?

However…

I will reserve judgment on Iron Will concerning Faction Champions in the Coliseum.  Iron Will may prove to to be useful for this fight in particular.  We’ll see how it pans out.


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